Episode 105

The Hidden Reason Most Manufacturing Cybersecurity Programs Fail

Published on: 23rd December, 2025

Dino sits down with cybersecurity expert Wil Klusovsky to discuss the massive gap between IT security practices and OT reality. With 26 years of experience, Wil shares his unconventional journey into operational technology and reveals why most security tools end up as shelfware on plant floors.

They dive deep into the communication breakdown between CISOs and plant operations, the critical role of system integrators and OEMs that IT leaders often ignore, and why the "air gap" myth continues to put manufacturing facilities at risk.

Wil breaks down his framework for speaking to boards in language they understand, emphasizing business impact over technical jargon.

The conversation covers everything from the challenges of MFA implementation in OT environments to why patching isn't always the answer. They discuss how organizations can build effective OT security programs by making cybersecurity everyone's responsibility - not just IT's problem.

Chapters:

  1. (00:00:00) - Opening: The $50K Security Investment That Nobody Uses
  2. (00:01:00) - Will's Unconventional Journey Into OT Cybersecurity
  3. (00:03:45) - The Communication Gap Between IT and OT Teams
  4. (00:07:15) - Why Asset Visibility Tools Miss 135% of Your Equipment
  5. (00:10:30) - Speaking Board Language: Revenue Loss vs. Technical Jargon
  6. (00:13:25) - The Missing Third Leg: System Integrators and OEMs
  7. (00:17:30) - Making Cybersecurity Everyone's Job, Not Just IT's Problem
  8. (00:21:15) - Why Patching Isn't Always the Answer in OT Environments
  9. (00:25:45) - The Reality Check: Physical Security in Manufacturing Plants
  10. (00:28:30) - Building a Cybersecurity Program as a Journey, Not a Destination

Links And Resources:

  1. Wil Online Linktree
  2. Wil Klusovsky on LinkedIn
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  4. Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedIn
  5. Cybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedIn
  6. BW Design Group Cybersecurity
  7. Dino Busalachi on LinkedIn
  8. Craig Duckworth on LinkedIn

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